I2P dev meeting, November 18, 2014 @ 20:00 UTC
dg, eche|on, Meeh, orignal, psi, RN, str4d, zzz,
Full log is partly reconstructed from scrollback, iRelay dropped in and out early on.
<zzz> 0) Hi <zzz> 1) Reimbursement for 31C3 attendees (zzz, echelon) <zzz> 2) Purchase of test/build boxes (zzz, kytv) <zzz> 3) 0.9.17 and/or 0.9.16.1 release schedule (zzz) <zzz> 4) Reseed status and new admin (zzz) <zzz> 5) SU3 news test before 0.9.17 (zzz, echelon, psi) <zzz> 6) 6-month roadmap, NTCP2 etc. (str4d, rescheduled from Oct. 28) <zzz> 7) New developer topics (str4d) <zzz> 0) Hi <zzz> Hi <dg> hi, was able to make it. <str4d> Hi <orignal> hi <zzz> I'd like to keep items 1-5 short, 5-10 minutes each. I'll then turn it over to str4d for the remaining items to run for as long as he likes. <zzz> 1) Reimbursement for 31C3 attendees (zzz, echelon) <zzz> We've traditionally paid for conference tickets for project members and I think there is broad consensus to continue this <RN> hi <zzz> Since CCC last year was so productive, I propose that we provide additional funds to support people and encourage them to attend <zzz> Not a full reimbursement, but just partial support. I propose 200 euros each, on top of the ticket. <zzz> thoughts/discussion? <eche|on> no problem with me <str4d> The ticket is 150 euro IIRC? <RN> sounds reasonable to me... 350... 20:04:02 <zzz> I think the ticket is 100-120 euros 20:04:43 <eche|on> ticket was 80 euro last time 20:04:43 <str4d> https://events.ccc.de/congress/2014/wiki/Static:Tickets 20:04:46 <iRelay> Title: Tickets - 31C3_Public_Wiki (at events.ccc.de) 20:05:01 <zzz> In addition, if there is anybody that would require a higher level of support to be able to attend at all, they should speak up now 20:05:16 <RN> what's the date? 20:05:29 <eche|on> 27th til 30th december <zzz> sounds like we have agreement for the general idea. Any discussion on the exact amount? * RN can not attend.... <RN> but I think extra over ticket is good for incedentals and accomodations.... <str4d> I have no objections to 200 euro + ticket <eche|on> so, who is going and who would get the money? ;-) <RN> would 200 cover two days hotel, or all four? <zzz> I assume it would be about 8 people, same as last year, for budgeting purposes <eche|on> RN: depends on the hotel, it would cover a hostel for sure <str4d> RN: depends where you go <eche|on> ok, not the amount of people is a problem, but I would not like to pay a newbie that money, just because she/he read about it. no issue for "well known" people <zzz> right <str4d> https://events.ccc.de/2014/10/14/31c3-special-terms-at-generator-hostel/ <str4d> Special 31C3 deal. Double rooms are available for 70.00 Euro, a bed in a six-person dorm 17.00 Euro per night. <zzz> this is in no way a complete coverage of hotel/food/plane. Just a little help to encourage team members to attend <zzz> last call for discussion on 1) <str4d> With two people sharing the double above, the 200 euro would cover the hotel <RN> still sounds resonable to me... <zzz> ok, sounds like we have agreement <eche|on> sure <RN> :) <zzz> 2) Purchase of test/build boxes (zzz, kytv) <zzz> we have limited test coverage for windows and mac. <zzz> zab used to test with mac, he's gone; meeh has a mac but it died and/or he ran out of time <zzz> so I wanted to ask if we could get more test coverage if we bought win or mac boxes for kytv and/or others <RN> my mac is too old to help... and I blew up the powerstrip it used to plug into... <Meeh_> zzz: what do I need to test ? <zzz> these could be used for other things too (e.g. laptops might be nice) <Meeh_> got OSX 10.9 and 10.10 <eche|on> I do have a win box, but not the time. we still do have 2 win 8 licenses <Meeh_> tell me and I'm doing it now <zzz> Meeh_, running dev builds. Do you run them now? <dg> when we say 'test coverage', what do we mean? <zzz> is anybody running dev builds on windows? <Meeh_> no sorry, new mac.. just a day ago since my lenovo died, marielle had to buy me one <Meeh_> so I just installed java <Meeh_> give me a sec and I'll build and start <RN> yeah, cuz depending on the time and level of test coverage... I got an XP +pos_ready running test builds 20:14:15 <dg> i could if needed to but that'd be in a VM and I wouldn't e using it intensely 20:14:25 <dg> just seeing if it works after uptime, try some eepsites, run some snark, check for errors 20:14:30 <dg> I don't know if I'd hit all the errors a real user would 20:14:47 <zzz> my question is, can we encourage anybody to do more dev build testing if we bought them dedicated boxes? 20:15:31 <str4d> There are two kinds of testing we would benefit from: people manually doing QA on the builds, and CI servers running on Windows and Mac. 20:15:39 <eche|on> not me. I got all hardware/software, but not the time/mood for intensive test 20:15:49 <zzz> yes str4d 20:16:09 <RN> or what if the box was set up with some kind of "safe-via-i2p" remote access for the dev team... 20:16:17 <Meeh_> zzz, I can always do OSX testing, if I'm not replying on IRC, try twitter or firstname.lastname@example.org since both will alert my phone 20:16:24 <str4d> This topic appears to be about QA, but what would it take to get e.g. a Mac CI server hooked into kytv's jenkins? 20:16:47 <Meeh_> for a CI yes 20:16:48 <zzz> anybody that would do more if we bought them hardware? 20:16:59 <Meeh_> unfortunally I must move my mac from time to time 20:17:22 <eche|on> <= missing the free network connection so far. 20:17:23 <Meeh_> what hardware, what teting in what OS? (regardless of paying hw) 20:17:26 <zzz> Meeh you seem to be having less time lately, not more 20:17:37 <zzz> windows and mac 20:17:41 <eche|on> I already do run one I2P node on my address. But hm, I could run windows on IPv6 20:17:48 <Meeh_> yes, cleared up a lot in RL that took time 20:17:53 <RN> if the rest of my infrastructure wasn't constanly a mess I'd volunteer a home for a box.... 20:18:26 <Meeh_> fyi, i2pd/i2p will be available from au,ru,nl,uk,de,no,us-w,us-e in about a hour 20:18:34 <Meeh_> downloadable 20:18:39 <zzz> ok let's not worry about who in particular. eche|on if we found somebody, do we have the budget to buy some hardware? 20:18:40 <Meeh_> CDN 20:18:47 <zzz> Meeh please stay on topic 20:18:52 <eche|on> zzz: we do have fund, for sure 20:19:02 <eche|on> btw, Meeh, did the money arrive ? 20:19:17 <zzz> ok I propose that we end this topic and look for volunteers in the coming weeks 20:19:18 <RN> check me in 6 mo if I've stabilized the deamons... 20:19:24 <zzz> eche|on, please stay on topic 20:19:34 <zzz> any other discussion on 2) ? 20:20:03 <Meeh_> oh, sorry I forgot to reply. it's paid and done.. I guess I got the money but marielle transfered at the same time so need to double check. but quite sure. thanks 20:20:07 <dg> i'd like to hear from kytv 20:20:18 <Meeh_> eche|on: ^ 20:20:28 <dg> pm guys 20:20:40 <zzz> let's put this on the agenda to revisit for the next meeting 20:20:51 <str4d> +1 20:20:51 <zzz> 3) 0.9.17 and/or 0.9.16.1 release schedule (zzz) 20:21:07 <eche|on> I vote for 0.9.17 20:21:18 <zzz> At one point I wanted to do a 0.9.16.1 release to fix the SSU bug but I'm pretty much over it 20:21:21 <dg> Nothing's fallen down.. so 0.9.17. 20:21:21 <eche|on> in 2-3 weeks 20:21:41 <zzz> I'm now proposing a "mini" 0.9.17 release the weekend of Nov. 29 20:22:00 <zzz> i.e. a 4 week cycle to fix bugs, well before the christmas break 20:22:02 <str4d> There are several reports on forum.i2p that 0.9.16 network has slowed, and participation at nodes is down. 20:22:03 <RN> "mini?" 20:22:22 <zzz> mini as in limited changes, and not a full 6-7 week cycle 20:22:25 <str4d> IDK if the SSU bug could be causing that... 20:22:37 <RN> ah... yes... mini... good plan... 20:22:43 <zzz> pretty much what's in mtn now. About 13K lines of diff, but most of that is eddsa test changes 20:22:49 <orignal> sure it does. becuase dropped packets 20:23:10 <zzz> btw, my expl. build success stats are up significantly since the .16 release. Don't know why 20:23:11 <RN> so sounds like yesses for do a mini release <zzz> the SSU bug is actually just an irritation, I don't think it's the cause of any real problems <zzz> ok let's declare tag freeze and shoot for a release in 11 days <zzz> anything else on 3)? <eche|on> so 0.9.17 in 2 weeks <RN> wooohooo! <str4d> Are the release host operators available then? <dg> yup. <str4d> (Remembering that Nov 29th is just after Thanksgiving) <dg> It doesn't take long for me, it won't be an issue. <zzz> we'll assume so for now and slip as necessary. i'll be around but in a turkey semi-coma. perfect for building. <dg> It's mostly echelon you need anyway <zzz> 4) Reseed status and new admin (zzz) <zzz> This is just a brief announcement for those that don't know. <Meeh_> yeo <zzz> Due to time constraints, Meeh has moved the reseeed admin job to 'backup' <Meeh_> which is clearly the best at the moment :) <zzz> backup is not on irc but he can easily be contacted email@example.com or on the reseed subforum on zzz.i2p <zzz> thanks to meeh and backup for a smooth transition <Meeh_> but I think logstash will be interesting for the reseed admin soon <Meeh_> which I collect from mine <eche|on> thankjsgiving is no issue here in europe <zzz> backup is working on getting the remainder of sites onto su3, improving monitoring, and recruiting new hosts <zzz> so please give backup your full support. <str4d> Aye :) <dg> :) <zzz> also work with him if you have SSL / TLS issues he's discovered <zzz> anything else on 4)? <Meeh_> I can provide reseed from russia and australia now <Meeh_> if wanted <Meeh_> as well <Meeh_> nothing more on 4 from me <eche|on> Meeh_: ask baclup^^ <zzz> great, contact your new leader ;) <zzz> 5) SU3 news test before 0.9.17 (zzz, echelon, psi) <eche|on> aah <zzz> .17 include a switch to su3 news. <eche|on> thats a topic <eche|on> I need to test it 20:29:17 <zzz> I'd like to have eche|on add a news item, build the su3, so we can test it before the .17 release 20:29:43 * str4d is thinking through the current spec to ensure it is optimal 20:29:52 <zzz> all dev builds should be pulling from news.su3 now but since there's been nothing new since the release, it needs a test 20:30:07 <eche|on> I will try to generate a .su3 the next days 20:30:25 <zzz> would also be ideal, but not required, if psi would create a cert and check it in, since he's the backup but can't currently create his own su3 file 20:30:45 <dg> why can't he? 20:32:24 <zzz> str4d, also review the XHTML whitelist in the code please 20:32:24 <zzz> great, thanks eche|on 20:32:24 <str4d> Will do. 20:32:24 <eche|on> zzz: script was in mtn? 20:32:24 <zzz> eche|on, yes, i2p.scripts 20:32:24 <zzz> I know str4d has proposed writing the XML by hand, and thats what i did for the .16 release, but perhaps a search for a feed writer would be helpful 20:32:24 <zzz> don't know 20:32:24 <zzz> anything else on 5) ? 20:32:24 <str4d> What I would actually propose is: 20:32:51 <str4d> - Find a program for writing Atom feeds. 20:33:22 <str4d> -- If nothing suitable, write a Python script that converts a directory of XHTML entries into a feed...? 20:33:56 <zzz> yup 20:33:56 <str4d> - Store the info on the release versions etc. in a separate config file, and have a script that inserts it into the atom feed. 20:34:19 <zzz> str4d, please do that spec review in the next couple days 20:34:26 <str4d> K 20:34:38 <zzz> anything else on 5) ? 20:35:26 <zzz> 6) 6-month roadmap, NTCP2 etc. (str4d, rescheduled from Oct. 28) 20:35:26 <zzz> 7) New developer topics (str4d) 20:35:38 <zzz> I hand the meeting and the baffer to str4d at this time 20:35:48 <str4d> Ooooooooo 20:35:56 * str4d grins gleefully 20:35:56 <Meeh_> and I might have news at the end 20:35:58 <Meeh_> of meeting 20:36:02 <Meeh_> so HL me str4d please :) 20:36:25 <str4d> Okay, I can't remember what exactly I was planning to say in 6) when I originally proposed it.. 20:39:31 <str4d> So I'll start with 7) and see if it comes back to me. 20:39:31 <str4d> Despite the website revamp, the information we make available there is not well organized or clear. 20:39:31 <str4d> And with the last year's increased focus on privacy and security, we really need to make the most of the current environment. 20:39:57 <str4d> We have several locations with information on possible projects, tasks etc. but nothing clear, or up-to-date 20:41:06 <str4d> http://i2p-projekt.i2p/en/get-involved/todo 20:41:06 <str4d> http://i2p-projekt.i2p/en/get-involved/roadmap 20:41:06 <str4d> http://i2p-projekt.i2p/en/about/performance/future 20:41:06 <str4d> http://i2p-projekt.i2p/en/get-involved/develop/applications 20:41:06 <str4d> The last two links I'll leave for now, but at the very least I want us all now to look at the todo and roadmap pages now. 20:41:17 <str4d> like, now 20:41:20 <str4d> ;P 20:41:40 <iRelay> Title: Roadmap - I2P (at i2p-projekt.i2p) 20:41:42 <iRelay> Title: Future Performance Improvements - I2P (at i2p-projekt.i2p) 20:41:45 <iRelay> Title: Application Development - I2P (at i2p-projekt.i2p) 20:42:08 <str4d> The todo page is mostly filled with tasks that seem to have been completed. Of the tasks that are left, how many of them are still relevant? 20:43:49 <zzz> the wiki page on trac and the various threads on zzz.i2p are probably much more relevant 20:44:13 <str4d> Probably. But they are not visible to outsiders. 20:44:41 <str4d> "Hi, you want to help out with I2P? Go hunt for something to do on zzz.i2p" 20:44:49 <zzz> right 20:44:56 <str4d> I'm not saying we duplicate information. 20:45:50 <str4d> But I think the website should contain a concise overview of what we think is important for I2P, with links to more information as desired. 20:45:52 <str4d> This feeds in well to a future GSoC project. 20:46:16 <str4d> As usual, talking like this isn' 20:46:23 <str4d> t going to get much done :P 20:46:33 <zzz> is a group review now on IRC going to work, or do we need a volunteer to redo it all, or would a couple hours spent at CCC do it? 20:47:19 <str4d> Group review right now won't work. And after what I went though with the website, I don't think it's fair to put this all on one person. 20:47:40 <eche|on> I vote for a "lets do work a bit on it and if not done on CCC, do it at table 20:47:45 <zzz> maybe it's fair if it isn't you... 20:48:02 <str4d> CCC is pretty close, so that would be ideal. But we would need to get the website etc. updated *very* quickly, so we can point people to it. 20:49:32 <zzz> if your intent is this is in the context of a broader effort to apply for GSoC please make that clear 20:50:14 <str4d> I would very much like to get a GSoC student on board, but that is a separate topic. 20:50:50 <zzz> if not for GSoC, what's the reason for "very quickly"? 20:51:20 <str4d> zzz: I just meant that, if the work is done *at* CCC then we can't capitalize on it *at* CCC. 20:51:32 <zzz> oh, ok 20:52:08 <str4d> We would instead need to say "check the website in x days" which doesn't leave as good an impression. 20:53:46 <zzz> so your goal is to have a good answer for people that walk up and ask 'what do you need'? 20:53:53 <str4d> On the website, /todo is ancient. /roadmap is sparse. /performance/future is separated, and /develop/applications is a bunch of topics bundled into one. 20:53:56 <str4d> zzz: yes. 20:54:19 <str4d> People who are interested in I2P can look at the website and immediately see how their skills will be most useful. 20:54:44 <str4d> Top of the list: UI designers ^_^ 20:54:53 <zzz> but the people that ask that generally have never run i2p, so my answer is 'install it and run it for a couple weeks, then ask on irc' 20:55:52 <str4d> I don't think running I2P needs to be a predicate for helping. 20:55:52 <zzz> but yeah, the other answer is 'ui, crypto, ..." 20:56:25 <str4d> IMHO if you tell someone to wait a few weeks, often the enthusiasm can be displaced by something else. 20:56:28 <str4d> Right, but we need to be more specific. 20:56:28 <zzz> but realistically is anybody going to start devving who hasn't ever used it? 20:56:59 <zzz> i can't imagine volunteering to code for some software i've never used. 20:58:33 <str4d> No, but we can start engaging with them while they start using I2P. 20:58:33 <zzz> sure. agreed with all. An up-to-date todo list is a sign of a serious project. 20:58:58 <str4d> Okay, action time: 20:58:58 <RN> it is talking about 6.x and older on there... 20:59:07 <dg> something else is whether or not we're going to drop stop-and-go, etc 20:59:16 <dg> people point to our docs and say "wow, they'll have it/do" 20:59:33 <str4d> dg: ? 21:00:43 <> RN@kyirc leans forward on chair... 21:01:06 <dg> and uh, delays 21:01:30 * RN feels nostalgic 21:02:35 <str4d> Over the next week, can everyone here draw up two lists. One with features and improvements they would like to see in I2P itself, the other with features and improvements in the I2P ecosphere (this is things like new apps and services, dev work on existing apps, research, code review etc.) 21:02:35 <str4d> Doesn't need to be long, but I think if we all contribute a few points to each, even if some are duplicates it will be a good jumping off point. 21:02:35 * str4d will draft up an outline of how the content will be presented on the website (what content will go where etc.) 21:03:29 <RN> do we have a reasonable survey mechanism? on forum or zzz? 21:03:31 <zzz> yeah, if you setup the framework we can fill it in 21:03:53 <str4d> zzz: always seems to be the case ;P 21:04:33 <str4d> Who is available this time next week for a "meeting"/group discussion? 21:04:57 <RN> I might be 21:05:55 <str4d> The sole topic will be sorting through the lists people show up with, and organizing them into the content sections I will present. 21:05:59 <zzz> sure 21:06:20 <dg> me too 21:06:31 <RN> do you want lists i2pmailed to you? 21:06:50 <RN> or contribute to a thread on fourm or trac or??? 21:07:44 <str4d> RN: if you can't make it to the meeting, message me a link to pastethis.i2p 21:08:31 <str4d> Otherwise, just bring it to the meeting. 21:08:38 <RN> k 21:08:41 <str4d> Rather than a discussion on zzz.i2p, this time I want to try independent brainstorming without being influenced by what has already been posted. 21:09:16 <str4d> After the meeting, we will have something that can be posted on zzz.i2p or the wiki (probably there) for further discussion and editing. 21:11:36 <str4d> Does anyone else have more to say on 7)? 21:11:45 * str4d is done for this meeting 21:11:59 <str4d> Otherwise I'll go back to 6) briefly 21:13:30 * RN awats the baffing or the handoff of the baffer 21:13:54 * str4d assumes nothing. 21:14:00 <str4d> 6) 6-month roadmap, NTCP2 etc. (str4d, rescheduled from Oct. 28) 21:14:39 <str4d> I *still* can't remember where I wanted to go with this topic, but it dovetails nicely into 7. 21:14:52 <str4d> Previous large-scale dev work has been approximately 6-monthly, and we are about at the end of a cycle. 21:15:38 <str4d> Aside from the continual move towards new crypto, we should decide where to focus development effort for the next six months. 21:16:07 <str4d> NTCP2 is one suggestion, and PT development and integration 21:16:11 <eche|on> I am afk now 21:16:21 <str4d> o/ eche|on 21:16:49 <str4d> Formalizing our todo list will IMHO help us as much as it will help prospective new developers. 21:17:13 <str4d> At a minimum, we need to ensure that zzz's paper list of development stuff is bus-proof ;) 21:18:44 <Meeh_> what's the current topic? 21:19:24 <str4d> Meeh_: I think everyone is done with my ranting now, so I'll hand over to you :) 21:19:28 <RN> 6-mo roadmap... 21:19:53 <str4d> For 6) I think we can talk about it next week, after we have discussed peoples' lists. 21:20:00 <str4d> s/it/it more/ 21:20:01 <iRelay> str4d meant: For 6) I think we can talk about it more next week, after we have discussed peoples' lists. 21:20:31 <Meeh_> ah, thanks 21:21:23 <Meeh_> well, I've meanwhile you had meeting now, done what I said I should do, and it's giving i2p a lot of more download mirrors 21:21:48 <RN> :) 21:21:55 <str4d> Yay! 21:22:03 <dg> awesome 21:22:03 <Meeh_> in some hours, download.i2p.io should work for al, and should resolve based on latency and geoip 21:22:06 <Meeh_> none recorded from my site 21:22:07 <Meeh_> dns thingy 21:22:14 <Meeh_> they also got names 21:22:17 <Meeh_> I will list them now 21:22:31 <Meeh_> the domain mentioned was a shared domain 21:23:45 <Meeh_> jp01-mirror.i2p.io, nl01-mirror.i2p.io, no01-mirror.i2p.io, ru01-mirror.i2p.io, uk01-mirror.i2p.io, use01-mirror.i2p.io, usw01-mirror.i2p.io 21:24:00 <Meeh_> all will answer on both http(s) 21:24:19 <Meeh_> oh, de01 will also emerge 21:24:38 <Meeh_> but NL01 and DE01 is probably not up before tomorrow, however all other should work in short time 21:25:01 * RN hugs Meeh_ 21:25:09 <Meeh_> I've also gotten my windows and apple certificates 21:25:32 <Meeh_> so I will ve signing builds for i2pd on OSX and Windows, to escape the 2untrusted publisher" blocker/alerter 21:25:42 <Meeh_> also 21:26:20 <Meeh_> every i2p team member can have their own mail account @ i2p.io OR alias, with clearnet access for that matter 21:26:31 <Meeh_> for examle marielle has firstname.lastname@example.org, and I got email@example.com 21:26:39 <Meeh_> short'n clean :D 21:27:09 <Meeh_> other than that, sorry for not beeing more around, but t I hope RL stuff are done now and I can continue here :) 21:27:51 <Meeh_> at last, a OSX and Windows build of i2pd is released tomorrow or tonight. 21:27:53 <Meeh_> thanks for listening! 21:28:12 * RN hugs Meeh_ more 21:28:41 <Meeh_> hehe, thanks RN:) 21:29:02 <str4d> Meeh_++ 21:29:16 <dg> str4d, zzz, Meeh_++ 21:29:32 <Meeh_> str4d, this can/could include f-droid too if you want 21:29:45 <str4d> Meeh_: is there a CDN setup for these servers, or are they "individual"? That is, how should the website mirrors list be updated? 21:30:04 <Meeh_> kytv: one server to rule them all.. remember if you publish to the one you got access to, all servers get it 21:31:42 <Meeh_> str4d: I'm partly done with the DNS balancing 21:31:42 <Meeh_> meaning it react to closest mirror 21:31:42 <Meeh_> so we could use one domain for all 21:31:42 <str4d> Okay, so the only download link that people will see is download.i2p.io 21:31:42 <Meeh_> but guide was bind9 and I'm running powerdns on the needed server so just need to ... find their way of doing the same 21:31:42 <str4d> (for this mirror system) 21:31:55 <Meeh_> yes, or if we will ... embrase it, we can write all 21:31:58 <str4d> F-droid on this would be ideal too. 21:32:51 <Meeh_> yes, right now it's just simple rsync, but I upgrade to openstack swift proxy at each location once I see high demand 21:33:07 <Meeh_> then it will be a REST url to publish updates too 21:33:15 <Meeh_> even zzz an do it himself from his browser with right credentials 21:33:31 <Meeh_> (when swift is added) 21:33:47 <Meeh_> reason I didn't right now was becasue it would have taken a hour or two more 21:33:49 <Meeh_> at least 21:34:00 <Meeh_> so then I did't catch the meeting :p 21:34:20 <str4d> Either as https://fdroid.i2p.io/repo/ and https://fdroid.i2p.io/archive/, or https://download.i2p.io/fdroid/repo/ and https://download.i2p.io/fdroid/archive/ 21:34:42 <str4d> Second option is probably better, then we don't need separate HTTPS certs. 21:34:51 <psi> is i2p.io going to be an inproxy? 21:34:51 <Meeh_> pick whatever *.i2p.io/* and you can use the https wildcard 21:34:58 <Meeh_> your chooise 21:35:01 <Meeh_> nope 21:35:04 <Meeh_> i2pd's page 21:35:14 <Meeh_> subsite of PS 21:35:24 <Meeh_> ofc. linking to geti2p.net as well 21:36:02 <Meeh_> see it as a readme page more or less, both on i2p as network and i2pd as the client 21:36:21 <Meeh_> not all ready, so if you got input, please write 21:37:47 <str4d> Meeh_: sounds good. If you have a wildcard cert then I'll choose fdroid.i2p.io (or f-droid.i2p.io, which would be technically correct) 21:37:56 <str4d> Yah, go with f-droid.i2p.io 21:38:08 <Meeh_> sure, we add it 21:38:16 <str4d> Okay, the meeting is IMHO done. Any final requests for topics? 21:38:27 <Meeh_> do you want access as well, and setup your own vhost in nginx? 21:38:35 <Meeh_> same server as kytv 21:38:46 <Meeh_> got access to 21:39:00 <Meeh_> I think you had actually, or has 21:39:15 <Meeh_> because of early f-droid setup 21:39:22 <str4d> I do, yes - it's how I uploaded the existing f-droid stuff 21:39:22 <Meeh_> IIRC 21:39:32 <str4d> Anyway 21:39:34 * str4d warms up the baffer 21:39:43 <Meeh_> sign in, check if your pw work, tell me if not and I make sure you can sudo 21:39:55 * str4d ***bafs the meeting closed 21:40:13 * RN dances a thanks for a good meeting dance