I2P dev meeting, November 5, 2002 @ 23:00 UTC
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al-jabr, co, codeshark, dj28, hezekiah, Mak, Neo, nop, Phiberoptika, Povert, UserX,
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--- Log opened Tue Nov 05 23:14:03 2002 23:14 < logger> test 23:55 < nop> hineo 23:55 < Neo> hinop 23:57 < nop> hi hezekiah --- Day changed Wed Nov 06 2002 00:00 < Neo> 23:00:00.00 UTC 00:00 < nop> ok 00:00 < nop> welcome 00:00 < nop> I kind of want to wait, looks like a relay died 00:00 < nop> just another minute 00:00 < nop> so that people can re-assimilate ;) 00:01 < hezekiah> Yeah. I got bumped out about 30 seconds ago. 00:01 < nop> right 00:01 < nop> ok 00:01 < nop> ok 00:01 < nop> welcome to the n-th iip-dev meeting 00:02 < hezekiah> 18th! 00:02 < nop> I think it's like the 18th 00:02 < nop> yes 00:02 < nop> thnx 00:02 < nop> on the agenda 00:02 < nop> 1) welcome <-- we're doing this now 00:02 < nop> 2) agenda list <-- we're doing this now 00:02 < nop> 3) ;) 00:03 < nop> 4) IIP logo 00:03 < nop> 5) Dev report 00:03 < nop> 6) RC3 (coming soon, we promise) 00:03 < nop> 7) questions 00:03 < nop> . 00:03 < nop> ok we did the welcome and the agenda 00:03 < nop> let's do the ;) 00:03 < nop> ;) 00:04 < nop> Ok IIP logo 00:04 < nop> and slogan 00:04 < co> Where can we see the logos that have been submitted? 00:04 < nop> none have really been submitted 00:04 < nop> except one 00:04 < nop> and I submitted a slogan for InvisibleNet 00:04 < nop> I'll tell you mine 00:05 < nop> front part of shirt "You can't attack what you can't see..." 00:05 < nop> then back would say 00:05 < nop> InvisibleNet 00:05 < nop> then there's this other one, I'll mail to iip-dev 00:05 < nop> but no one else seems to care 00:05 < nop> so... :( 00:06 < nop> then again 00:06 < nop> no one seems to want to buy shirts for IIP anyway 00:06 < nop> so... what can ya do 00:06 < nop> yes we're working on getting black shirts 00:06 < nop> next on the agenda 00:06 < nop> Dev report 00:07 < nop> same ol' same ol' dev is working on the core control 00:08 < nop> userx will give a brief summary 00:08 < hezekiah> *applause* 00:09 < UserX> core control will provide a system for being able to support multiple cores in iip. each core is esssentially network protocol 00:10 < UserX> . 00:10 < nop> ok 00:10 < nop> thank you UserX 00:10 < nop> man of many words 00:10 < nop> ;) 00:10 < nop> or woman 00:10 < nop> never know 00:10 < nop> anyway 00:10 < nop> RC3 00:11 < nop> it's on it's way out the door, I believe there is an openbsd compatibility that was reported and from what I know, it's been patched and cvs'd 00:11 < nop> (for some reason, I haven't got a listserv about it) 00:11 < nop> but we're hoping that this weekend would be a good time to do an RC3 upgrade 00:11 < nop> and it's not going to conflict with rc2 in any way 00:12 < nop> just mostly bug fixes 00:12 < nop> Questions 00:12 < nop> anyone? 00:12 < codeshark> so everything is in cvs now? 00:12 < dj28> yea 00:12 < dj28> i have a stupid one 00:12 < dj28> when will the IIP core server migrate away from the irc protocol? 00:12 < nop> codeshark - I believe so, please check with UserX to make sure he's comfortable with it 00:13 < nop> this is what the core control dev work puts us in a position to do 00:13 < dj28> and when will it become completely distributed? 00:13 < dj28> oh ok 00:13 < nop> so then we'll be able to build upon that 00:13 < UserX> codeshark: it will be once my server is talking to the internet again 00:13 < nop> and we hope to have 1.2 a fully distributed version 00:13 < dj28> ok. cool 00:13 < nop> at least at communication level 00:13 < nop> the routing might still be run through inform 00:14 < nop> but the communication should be decentralized 00:14 < nop> similar to how freenet 0.3 was 00:14 < dj28> yea 00:14 < nop> any other questions? 00:15 < co> So a core is a package of encryption algorithms that allow network communication? 00:15 < co> Explain that concept again, please. 00:15 < Mak> wow ...i jumped here ...sorry ... 00:16 < nop> well 00:16 < nop> a core is a network protocol 00:16 < nop> this puts us in a modular position 00:16 < nop> to possibly support many routing architectures 00:16 < Neo> oooh nice... 00:17 < nop> this could position us to support many protocols 00:18 < nop> the core control is similar to an API for cores 00:19 < nop> any more questions? 00:19 < co> Thank you. 00:19 < nop> np 00:21 < nop> oh 00:21 < nop> one more thing 00:22 < nop> Many thanks to Phiberoptika for her fine translation of the El Pais newspaper article done on IIP 00:22 < nop> it appears in spanish and with english translation (done by Phiberoptika) on the iip site www.invisiblenet.net/iip 00:22 < nop> it's a good article 00:22 < hezekiah> Cool! I'll have to check that out! Thanks, Phiberoptika! :) 00:22 < al-jabr> I have a question... 00:22 < nop> yes sir 00:22 < al-jabr> Two questions 00:22 < nop> sure 00:22 < al-jabr> I had one problem 00:23 < al-jabr> running IIP in linux, don't know if it's actually an IIP problem 00:23 < al-jabr> after I killed isproxy 00:23 < al-jabr> and tried to run again, it couldn't bind to the port 00:23 < al-jabr> had this problem a couple times, had to change the port number 00:23 < al-jabr> but when i logged of and on again (a few days later) the port was available 00:24 < al-jabr> so I'm not sure that's directly an issue with isproxy 00:24 < hezekiah> Is this reproducable, or just a random happening? 00:24 < nop> right, if you wait like 1 minute with RC2 you can rebind 00:24 < UserX> was something connected to it when you killed it? 00:24 < al-jabr> i'll try to reproduce it 00:24 < al-jabr> but 00:24 < al-jabr> no, nothing was connected to 6667 00:25 < nop> oh that port 00:25 < nop> hmm 00:25 < al-jabr> and it happened like three or four times and i had to keep changing ports 00:25 < al-jabr> yeah 00:25 < al-jabr> not the other one 00:25 < Phiberoptika> re:article: ;)!!!, no problem chicos.. 00:25 < al-jabr> i haven't reproduced it since then, but i haven't been trying 00:25 < nop> hehe 00:25 < al-jabr> since i rarely go restarted isproxy 00:26 < al-jabr> i should probably try to. also, i was experiencing a lot of problems with the network for the last few days 00:26 < Povert> I have a question.... 00:26 < al-jabr> and i don't know if it's something local 00:26 < UserX> odd. the only reason i know for that to happen is that if the connection is closed properly it will be left hanging and you have to wait for the OS to time it out 00:26 < Povert> is de openbsd thing realy solved? 00:26 < al-jabr> or if it's not really any worse than it's usually been 00:27 < al-jabr> because, before the last couple days, i got kicked off, maybe a couple times a day at MOST, then all of the sudden i was getting kicked off every few minutes, and sometimes not getting on at all, and sometimes lagging 00:27 < UserX> al-jabr: did you try using netstat to see if there were any lingering connections to port 6667 00:27 < al-jabr> and changing node.refs didn't seem to help 00:27 < al-jabr> no, i should have investigated that 00:27 < al-jabr> silly me 00:27 < al-jabr> i'll try it a bit more and i'll do that 00:28 < al-jabr> i didn't think that there could be connections on the other end after the server is killed 00:28 < nop> would netstat give a TIME_WAIT? 00:29 < hezekiah> Also, sometimes a process of isproxy hangs (but that only has happened to me when I'm debugging buggy code.) You should be able to check to see if there are still a hanging process of isproxy by doing: ps -e | grep isproxy 00:29 < al-jabr> i did that 00:29 < al-jabr> no isproxies were running 00:29 < hezekiah> Good. :) 00:30 < al-jabr> no, bad. 00:30 < al-jabr> but anyway, i'll investigate that some more, probably not a big issue 00:32 < Povert> nop 00:32 < Povert> is openbsd kompilation ready solved? 00:32 < Neo> diff -r1.2 sock.h 00:32 < Neo> 45c45 00:32 < Neo> < #elif defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__MACH__) 00:32 < Neo> --- 00:32 < Neo> > #elif defined(__FreeBSD__) || defined(__MACH__) || defined(__OpenBSD__) 00:33 < Povert> in codetree I meen 00:34 < nop> it's about to be committed 00:34 < Povert> ok 00:34 < Povert> dank 00:34 < nop> yep 00:37 < nop> any more questions? 00:42 < nop> thanks for attending 00:42 < nop> .