I2P dev meeting, March 13, 2007

Quick recap

  • Present:

bar, detonate, jrandom, TrevorReznik, zzz,

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16:01 < jrandom> 0) hi
16:01 < jrandom> 1) Net status and
16:01 < jrandom> 2) Syndie dev status and 1.005a
16:02 < jrandom> 3) Syndie GUI directions
16:02 < jrandom> 4) Feb bug harvesting contest results
16:02 < jrandom> 5) ???
16:02 < jrandom> 0) hi
16:02  * jrandom waves
16:02 < jrandom> weekly status notes posted up at http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2007-March/001338.html
16:02 < jrandom> y'all've had a few hours to read those (and of course to read the related syndie posts ;) so lets just jump in to 1) net status and
16:04 < jrandom> there's been a bunch going on in this front lately - zzz wanna gives us a rundown of whats coming in
16:05 <+zzz> ok
16:06 <+zzz> lots of improvements in tunnel building and upstream performance, mainly benefitting those who have a lot of outbound traffic or are upstream-bandwidth-constrained...
16:06 <+zzz> like i2psnark users...
16:06 <+zzz> I'm getting good results in testing so looking forward to getting it out there to all...
16:07 < jrandom> [w3wt]
16:07 <+zzz> I have one tweak to make a parameter configurable, as requested by Amiga4000, should get that in soon.
16:08 <+zzz> And thx for the $$ offer, however please keep it in the bank.
16:08 <+zzz> EOT :)
16:08 < jrandom> r0x0r - added to halloffame.html :)
16:09 <+zzz> haha I'm famous now
16:10 < jrandom> the changes look pretty promising, and they do seem that they'll have their largest impact once its widely deployed
16:11 < jrandom> just bounce me a msg when you want me to pull the trigger and i'll get it packaged and pushed w/in a day or so
16:11 < jrandom> ok, anyone have anything they'd like to bring up re: net status?
16:13 < jrandom> if not, lets hop on over to 2) syndie dev status
16:14 < jrandom> lots going on here (as you can see if you're using syndie or following https://trac.i2p.net/timeline )
16:14 < jrandom> i expect we'll have a new 1.005a release in the next day or two (obviously not including the things we're discussing in (3) below)
16:15 < TrevorReznik> jrandom: do you have time for a short query?
16:17 < jrandom> if its for the meeting, certainly (if its on 2), now is good, if it doesnt fit the agenda, we've got 5) ??? for everything else :)
16:17 < jrandom> (if its not something for the meeting, hit me as a priv msg)
16:17 < TrevorReznik> ok ;) ill wait
16:18 < jrandom> ok, anyone have anything for 2) syndie dev status?
16:20 < jrandom> if not, lets switch to 3) Syndie GUI directions
16:20 < jrandom> as mentioned in the mail, lots going on in this direction - mk has put together some really interesting ideas and we'll likely see it in syndie sooner rather than later
16:20 <+zzz> call me a traditionalist, but I think the current multipane thunderbird-like i/f is pretty good
16:24 < jrandom> hmm, with the multipane view, would that fit more with mk's mods than our current multitab interface though?
16:24 < jrandom> do you use the preview tab on the thread view now, for instance?
16:26 <+zzz> right now there's no choice but to go to the preview tab to see attachments, which I don't like - would rather just see the whole thing in the lower pane
16:26 <+zzz> sorry not conversant in the details of mk's mods so can't answer your other question
16:27 < jrandom> ah, so it would work better w/ mk's view (once we get it using the MessageView instead of MessagePreview down there)
16:27 < jrandom> oh, there's a screencap of mk's proposal up at http://dev.i2p.net/~jrandom/mk_max.png
16:27 < jrandom> mk: perhaps we could find a way to make the tree above vs. left configurable?
16:29 <+zzz> thunderbird used to give you a choice of 2 or 3 layouts for the 3 panes, but can't find it in the options atm
16:30 < jrandom> i remember reviewing their diagram for that, yeah
16:31 < jrandom> perhaps if we can find a way to get mk's "explorer" parentable cleanly in an arbitrary SWT Composite we could use it both via the current tabbed GUI as a tab and in the fullscreen mode as a screen
16:33 <+zzz> I like the tabs for the less-common stuff like options, syndication configuration, etc; I think that tabs combined with the multipane for the common stuff is good. imho anyway.
16:34 < jrandom> do you run syndie fullscreen or only in part of the screen
16:35 <+zzz> usually full
16:35 < jrandom> hmm cool
16:36 <+zzz> but because I'm using a 1024x768 laptop these days... on my 1600x1200 desktop I wouldn't take up the whole screen
16:37 < jrandom> ok, for all y-all watching in the background, please post up your thoughts and ideas whenever its convient for you
16:37 < jrandom> heh aye, makes sense
16:38  * jrandom is on an 800x600 net cafe box atm
16:38 <@detonate> hmm, i'm having trouble getting i2p working again
16:39 <@detonate> it's doing something, using lots of cpu, but the web console doesn't seem to ever start
16:39 <@detonate> i guess i could try running it in windows
16:39 < jrandom> anything in the logs?
16:39 <@detonate> not really, it just says that i need to reseed
16:39 <@detonate> are the logs quieter than before?
16:39 <+zzz> wrapper.log NPE's?
16:41 < jrandom> ok, if there isn't anything else for 3, lets jump on to 4) Feb bug harvesting contest results
16:42 < jrandom> congrats & thanks to void, Darn, and Anonymous!  
16:42 < jrandom> (and to everyone else who has helped out, of course)
16:42 < jrandom> bug reports help us track down these issues and make sure they get taken care of, so please keep 'em coming
16:43 < jrandom> ok, if there isn't anything on 4), lets jump to 5) ???
16:43 < jrandom> anyone have anything they want to bring up for the meeting?
16:45 < bar> there was someone asking in the forums why the graphs displaying bw seem a bit off
16:45 < bar> thought you might have an idea or two
16:46 < bar> (basically, they peak at 1.5 x max bw setting)
16:47 < jrandom> aye, wasn't sure *which* bw graphs they were referring to (each of the graphs accurrately render the stat which they represent, from what i've seen)
16:47 <@detonate> nm, it's working again :)
16:48 <+zzz> it's the first 3 graphs on graphs.jsp, which seem much higher than the bw displayed on the left side of the router console, and for me are much higher than my configured upstream limit
16:49  * jrandom loads
16:51 < jrandom> hmm, and that includes the upstream avg w/ burst in mind?
16:52 <+zzz> yes
16:52 < jrandom> hmm, ill look into it
16:53 <+zzz> I'll investigate further, guess it doesn't ring a bell for you
16:53 < jrandom> ok, anyone have anything else for the meeting?
16:57 < jrandom> if not...
16:57  * jrandom winds up
16:58  * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed